Ah, batteries. They always die sooner than you think, right? Not this one! Called Karpen’s Pile, this battery has been working uninterrupted. Anyone not familiar with “Karpen’s Pile” might want to do a quick search before reading the rest of this, you just need to spend 30 seconds. Directory:Karpen’s Pile — A Battery That Has Produced Energy Continuously Since s. Lasted edited by Andrew Munsey, updated on June 15, at

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“The battery that isn’t a battery” – my own simple theory. – xkcd

Nicolae Vasilescu Karpen December 10 O. Half a century ago, the pile’s inventor had said it will work forever, and so far it looks like he was right.

Researchers from the University of Brasov and the Polytechnic University of Bucharest in Romania have even performed special studies on the battery, but didn’t come to a clear conclusion.

Last edited by MrAwesome on Sun Jan 30, 4: That was like a roller coaster of mathematical reasoning. A decade later – a few years ago – I read an article about how the US military was experimenting with this very karpeb and said they were making progress.

According to some who studied Karpen’s theoretical work, the pile he invented defies the second principle of thermodynamics referring to the transformation of thermal energy into mechanical workand this makes it a second-degree perpetual motion machine.

Search Search this site: Others say it doesn’t, being merely a generalization to the law, and an application of zero point energy. You’d still think you were right?

It has been called “the uniform-temperature thermoelectric pile,” and the first prototype was built in the s. I always figured this would be easiest karepn accomplish by using a layer of atoms that have a far out electron shell with a single electron that is able to “jump off” comparatively easily without destabilizing the atoms molecular bindings, resulting in the electron getting “trapped” in another medium and transferred to another conducting layer, I think you get the picture.


The device is housed at the Dimitrie Leonida National Technical Museum, and by it had kar;en working there continuously for 60 years.

Nicolae Vasilescu-Karpen

kapen Once you take the electron from the gold or the platinum, you won’t get another except in some cases, e. It’s also worth observing that the article by Ovidiu Sandru, a partial copy of which forms much of Wikipedia’s article right now, goes on to say, in the part not quoted in Wikipedia, that “[s]ome scientists say the device works by transforming thermal energy into mechanical work”, but the museum director disagrees with them.

As I examined their electron shells it suddenly dawned on me, platinum is used in catalytic converters because of its abilty to ionize almost anything it comes into contact with!

Built by Vasile Karpen, the pile has been working uninterrupted for 60 years.

Karpen’s Pile: Producing Energy Continuously Since – Sepp Hasslberger

The purpose of the motor and the blades was to show that the piles actually generate electricity, but they’re not needed anymore, since current technology allows us to measure all the parameters and outline all of them in a more proper way. Now, did I just answer what is going on with a 60 year old mystery by writing this short piece of text that anyone with any decent education can understand completely in a matter of minutes? Lithium Sulphur Batteries Directory: It would be good to see if the battery continues to work inside a really good Faraday cage.

So, the answer is “at least years” for appropriate values of “significant current. The fact that still puzzles them is how a man of such a scientific stature such as Karpen’s could have started building something “that crazy. It has been producing a constant if small energy output since and still going. Someone else tried to tidy up the resultant mess. He introduced electrically transmitted “wired telegrams” in the Old Romanian Kingdom by Looking closely at the molecule and reading some related material I realised that sulfuric acid has a rather strong difference in electric charge when comparing one end to the other, and the molecule itself should be big enough to absorb an extra electron if it would be applied to the positive end of the molecule.


If that’s what they really mean, then they should be immediately directed to the Brownian ratchet and asked to please investigate it until they realize why it will not work. Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies have nothing to lose but their chains -Marx.

Library Dan Winter Fractal. Our museum has been able to keep it, though. Platinum atom with 17 electrons in its inner-second orbit has one elcron less for an overall neutraliy.

It has been called “the uniform-temperature thermoelectric pile,” and the first prototype has been built in the s. If someone wants to start a new thread about graphene batteries, go right ahead.

Both platinum and gold are also otherwise unaffected by sulfuric acid. Although it should have stopped working decades ago, it plle. Our friends seem to be genetically more similar to us than strangers, according to a new U.

A Battery That Produces Energy Continuously Since 1950 Exists in a Romanian Museum — Karpen’s Pile

Indeed, the article barely even touches on WHAT the device actually is. Physics problems, chemistry equations, biology weirdness, it all goes here. Does anyone here have the karppen to put my theory to the test?

Attach other lead of voltmeter ksrpen platinum. It’s kind of sad and funny at the same time. Electric forces may bind nucleus Theory of Objective Motions – Einstein was wrong Spin and rotation in gravity, magnetism and star formation Tens of thousands of Sea Lions starve and die as Pacific marine ecosystem succumbs to radioactive contamination German Inventor solves permanent magnet motor puzzle – wants to ‘give away’ the discovery We could use this to send a signal to them!